Well, I'll make sure Hartford gets a sending off party for the playoffs. ..
we may not win, but we'll play our butts off.
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| Author: | CFL Pressman [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:28 am ] |
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<table cellspacing="0" class="GoTWOther" cellpadding="5" width="480"><tr><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet03.jpg"></td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="400" valign="middle" align="center"><b>Monday Night Game:</b> 82 degrees, 6MPH, Fair<br><b>Durham</b> ( 12-3, PR 83 ) at <b>Tampa Bay</b> ( 11-4, PR 69 )<br>Durham favored by 2</td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet16.jpg" ... tr><tr><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet22.jpg"></td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="400" valign="middle" align="center"><b>Sunday Night Game:</b> 67 degrees, 1MPH, Fair<br><b>Memphis</b> ( 8-7, PR 51 ) at <b>New Orleans</b> ( 13-2, PR 84 )<br>New Orleans favored by 9</td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet02.jpg" ... tr><tr><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet08.jpg"></td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="400" valign="middle" align="center"><b>Thursday Night Game:</b> 43 degrees, 1MPH, Fair<br><b>Hartford</b> ( 11-4, PR 73 ) at <b>Brooklyn</b> ( 8-7, PR 52 )<br>Hartford favored by 4</td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet20.jpg" ... tr><tr><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet23.jpg"></td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="400" valign="middle" align="center"><b>Saturday Late Game:</b> 36 degrees, 7MPH, Rain<br><b>Boston</b> ( 8-7, PR 60 ) at <b>Atlantic City</b> ( 8-7, PR 56 )<br>Atlantic City favored by 1</td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet13.jpg" ... tr><tr><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet21.jpg"></td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="400" valign="middle" align="center"><b>Saturday Early Game:</b> 26 degrees, 12MPH, Fair<br><b>Fargo</b> ( 8-7, PR 49 ) at <b>El Paso</b> ( 10-5, PR 67 )<br>El Paso favored by 6</td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet07.jpg" ... tr><tr><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet19.jpg"></td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="400" valign="middle" align="center"><b>Sunday Game:</b> 22 degrees, 9MPH, Fair<br><b>Charleston</b> ( 9-6, PR 70 ) at <b>Baltimore</b> ( 6-9, PR 40 )<br>Charleston favored by 6</td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet14.jpg" ... tr><tr><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet28.jpg"></td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="400" valign="middle" align="center"><b>Sunday Game:</b> 68 degrees, 0MPH, Fair<br><b>Cleveland</b> ( 7-8, PR 54 ) at <b>Chicago</b> ( 6-9, PR 47 )<br>Cleveland favored by 1</td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet11.jpg" ... tr><tr><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet04.jpg"></td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="400" valign="middle" align="center"><b>Sunday Game:</b> 44 degrees, 2MPH, Fair<br><b>Oregon</b> ( 7-8, PR 51 ) at <b>Seattle</b> ( 7-8, PR 42 )<br>Oregon favored by 1</td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet27.jpg" ... tr><tr><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet18.jpg"></td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="400" valign="middle" align="center"><b>Sunday Game:</b> 43 degrees, 12MPH, Fair<br><b>Tulsa</b> ( 4-11, PR 37 ) at <b>Denver</b> ( 9-6, PR 70 )<br>Denver favored by 9</td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet29.jpg" ... tr><tr><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet15.jpg"></td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="400" valign="middle" align="center"><b>Sunday Game:</b> 68 degrees, 0MPH, Fair<br><b>Long Beach</b> ( 8-7, PR 55 ) at <b>Huntington Beach</b> ( 5-10, PR 38 )<br>Long Beach favored by 3</td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet09.jpg" ... tr><tr><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet01.jpg"></td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="400" valign="middle" align="center"><b>Sunday Game:</b> 68 degrees, 0MPH, Fair<br><b>Boise</b> ( 11-4, PR 70 ) at <b>Anchorage</b> ( 4-11, PR 24 )<br>Boise favored by 9</td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet17.jpg" ... tr><tr><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet05.jpg"></td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="400" valign="middle" align="center"><b>Sunday Game:</b> 32 degrees, 3MPH, Fair<br><b>Santa Cruz</b> ( 12-3, PR 80 ) at <b>Texas</b> ( 3-12, PR 11 )<br>Santa Cruz favored by 14</td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet10.jpg" ... tr><tr><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet24.jpg"></td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="400" valign="middle" align="center"><b>Sunday Game:</b> 68 degrees, 0MPH, Fair<br><b>Las Vegas</b> ( 7-8, PR 38 ) at <b>Honolulu</b> ( 5-10, PR 24 )<br>Las Vegas favored by 2</td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet26.jpg" ... tr><tr><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet00.jpg"></td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="400" valign="middle" align="center"><b>Sunday Game:</b> 76 degrees, 13MPH, Fair<br><b>Arizona</b> ( 1-14, PR 12 ) at <b>Tucson</b> ( 14-1, PR 87 )<br>Tucson favored by 17</td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet25.jpg" ... tr><tr><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet12.jpg"></td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="400" valign="middle" align="center"><b>Sunday Game:</b> 45 degrees, 0MPH, Fair<br><b>Albany</b> ( 5-10, PR 24 ) at <b>Detroit</b> ( 4-11, PR 30 )<br>Detroit favored by 3</td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet31.jpg" ... tr><tr><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet06.jpg"></td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="400" valign="middle" align="center"><b>Sunday Game:</b> 64 degrees, 6MPH, Fair<br><b>Shreveport</b> ( 3-12, PR 17 ) at <b>San Antonio</b> ( 6-9, PR 46 )<br>San Antonio favored by 8</td><td class="GoTWOtherCell" width="39" valign="middle" align="center"><img width="35" height="35" src="http://www.thecfl.net/cfl/helmet30.jpg" ... tr></table> |
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| Author: | fantastic flying froggies [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:36 am ] |
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[size=1890b30d2][b90b30d2]Clinch scenarios for week 17:[/b90b30d2][/size90b30d2] All teams still alive are listed, all scenarios are clinch scenarios for week 17; teams are ordered by current playoff seeding order within their conference. [u90b30d2][b90b30d2]Eastern Football Conference:[/b90b30d2][/u90b30d2] [b90b30d2]New Orleans[/b90b30d2]: has clinched division title and #1 seed [b90b30d2]Durham[/b90b30d2]: has clinched playoff spot can clinch division and #2 seed with * win #5 seed with * loss [b90b30d2]Hartford[/b90b30d2]: has clinched division #2 seed with * win + Durham loss + favorable strength of victory tiebreaker (see note 1) #3 seed with * win + Durham loss + unfavorable strength of victory tiebreaker (see note 1) * loss * Durham win [b90b30d2]Cleveland[/b90b30d2]: can clinch division and #4 seed with * win * loss and favorable strength of victory tiebreaker (see note 2) [b90b30d2]Tampa Bay[/b90b30d2]: has clinched a playoff spot can clinch division with *win #2 seed with * win + Hartford loss * win + favorable strength of victory tiebreaker (see note 1) #3 seed with * win + Hartford win + unfavorable strength of victory tiebreaker (see note 1) #5 seed with * loss [b90b30d2]Charleston[/b90b30d2]: #6 seed with * win [b90b30d2]Atlantic City[/b90b30d2]: #6 seed with * win + Charleston loss [b90b30d2]Memphis[/b90b30d2]: #6 seed with * win + Charleston loss + Boston win [b90b30d2]Boston[/b90b30d2]: #6 seed with * win + Charleston loss + Memphis loss [b90b30d2]Chicago[/b90b30d2]: can clinch division and #4 seed with * win and favorable strength of victory tiebreaker (see note 2) [i90b30d2]note 1[/i90b30d2]: if Tampa Bay and Hartford both win, they both finish with a 12-4 record, a 9-3 conference record, a 4-1 record in common games. The difference would then be down to tiebreaker #5, strength of victory. [i90b30d2]note 2[/i90b30d2]: If Chicago beats Cleveland, it is down to tiebreaker #5, strength of victory. As of today, Chicago and Cleveland are also tied for that tiebreaker as well. Week 17 results will make the difference. [u90b30d2][b90b30d2]Western Football Conference[/b90b30d2][/u90b30d2]: [b90b30d2]Tucson[/b90b30d2]: has clinched divison and #1 seed [b90b30d2]Santa Cruz[/b90b30d2]: has clinched division and #2 seed [b90b30d2]Boise[/b90b30d2]: has clinched division #3 seed with * win * El Paso loss #4 seed with * loss and El Paso win [b90b30d2]El Paso[/b90b30d2]: has clinched a playoff spot can clinch division with * win * Denver loss #3 seed with * win and Boise loss #4 seed with * win + Boise win * Denver loss #5 seed with * loss + Denver win [b90b30d2]Denver[/b90b30d2]: can clinch division and #4 seed with * win + El Paso loss #5 seed with * win #6 seed with * loss + Fargo loss * loss + Long Beach loss [b90b30d2]Fargo[/b90b30d2]: #5 with * win + Denver loss #6 with * win + Denver win [b90b30d2]Long Beach[/b90b30d2]: #5 with * win + Denver loss + Fargo loss #6 with * win + Denver win + Fargo loss |
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| Author: | fantastic flying froggies [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:38 am ] |
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I [i5315cb7]think [/i5315cb7]these are right. But I could be wrong, especially in the case of Memphis where I'm not 100% sure. |
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| Author: | Taco [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:30 am ] |
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I think Memphis gets in with a win, a Charleston loss, and a Boston win over Atlantic City. If that happens then Memphis, Charleston, and Boston are all 9-7. - Conference record: a Charleston loss gives them a 5-7 conference record, while a Memphis win gives them a 6-6 conference record. If Boston wins they also have a 6-6 conference record. So Charleston is eliminated. - Memphis beat Boston head-to-head in week 4. Is that correct? |
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| Author: | TLK [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:37 am ] |
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What exactly is strength of victory? |
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| Author: | Taco [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:39 am ] |
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From: http://football.about.com/cs/football10 ... thofvi.htm Strength of victory is figured by calculating the combined winning percentage of the opponents a team has beaten. Combine the records of the opponents in each of the team's wins and calculate the total winning percentage. The team whose opponents have the higher winning percentage wins the tiebreaker. |
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| Author: | Hoosier [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:47 am ] |
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Well, I'll make sure Hartford gets a sending off party for the playoffs. .. we may not win, but we'll play our butts off. |
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| Author: | fantastic flying froggies [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:05 am ] |
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[quote3839b80="Taco"]I think Memphis gets in with a win, a Charleston loss, and a Boston win over Atlantic City. If that happens then Memphis, Charleston, and Boston are all 9-7. - Conference record: a Charleston loss gives them a 5-7 conference record, while a Memphis win gives them a 6-6 conference record. If Boston wins they also have a 6-6 conference record. So Charleston is eliminated. - Memphis beat Boston head-to-head in week 4. Is that correct?[/quote3839b80] Hmm, i think you're right. I was wrongly using the 'common games tiebreaker' before the conference record, and there Boston led both Charleston and Memphis. |
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| Author: | fantastic flying froggies [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:08 am ] |
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initial post edited to add Memphis clinch scenario. |
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| Author: | Taco [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:31 am ] |
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I also think Brooklyn has a slim chance at a playoff spot in this scenario: * Brooklyn win (9-7 record) * Atlantic City / Boston tie (8-7-1 records) * Memphis loss (8-8 record) * Charleston loss (9-7 record) The #6 seed would come down to the strength of victory tie breaker between Brooklyn and Charleston. Charleston currently has a slight edge in this tie breaker but the week 17 results could swing it the other way. |
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| Author: | wademoore [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:42 am ] |
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Thanks for doing all of that fff! The formula correctly picked our game with Durham as the Monday night game. Not only does it have huge playoff implications, but it's one of the biggest rivalries in the CFL and should draw huge ratings  .
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| Author: | fantastic flying froggies [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:51 am ] |
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[quotec333246="Taco"]I also think Brooklyn has a slim chance at a playoff spot in this scenario: * Brooklyn win (9-7 record) * Atlantic City / Boston tie (8-7-1 records) * Memphis loss (8-8 record) * Charleston loss (9-7 record) The #6 seed would come down to the strength of victory tie breaker between Brooklyn and Charleston. Charleston currently has a slight edge in this tie breaker but the week 17 results could swing it the other way.[/quotec333246] yes, you're right about that too, but really, if I also have to start thinking about [ic333246]tied games[/ic333246]... 
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