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| Author: | Shooter [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | San Antonio Draft Recap - A Look Back |
Now that the 2038 draft has been completed and the season is done, we can stand back a look at the results of how these rookies actually produced on the field. How did your draft class fair? Shawn Elliott (FS) - 1.7 I know it's a stretch, but Elliott falling to the 7th pick is an absolute highway robbery. His combine was through the roof and he looks to be polished for a 1st year player. By the numbers, he may have been the highest rated player on the board this year. He'll step into a starting role and be an early candidate for DROY. He looks to have everything you want in a FS minus the return capabilities, but we didn't draft him to return kicks, just picks to the end zone. Predicted Pre Camp Rating: 55/83 Actual Pre Camp Rating: 77/88 End of Season Rating: 89/89 Season Recap: 8 Ints, 20 Defensed Passes, 1 Sack, 57 Tackles, 22 Assists, 1 Fumble Recovery. Defensive Rookie of the Year??? Joe Wombacher (RB) - 2.6 Wombacher was a bit of a surprise pick. He probably went a round too early, but the Stinger brass felt the need to address RB in this draft and the guys at the top end weren't 1.7 worthy. If his bars hold up through TC, then he could wind up starting this year. If not, we will have a huge bust on our hands or at best a 3rd down back. We were considering Orlando Brooks here or even Lawrence Jackson here but felt they weren't value at 2.6. This pick was by far the biggest risk in our draft class as he has the highest upside and the farthest to fall. Predicted Pre Camp Rating: 19/72 Actual Pre Camp Rating: 39/71 End of Season Rating: 45/64 Season Recap: 1,447 Yards, 7 TDs, 4.70 YPC, 7 Fumbles The fumbles are cause for concern, but a solid rookie campaign. It'll be tough to beat RB Brandon Brandon for Offensive Rookie of the Year honors, but Wombacher is in the picture for the award. Doug Morrison (WLB) - 3.7 Morrison was not a need pick, but rather a best player available on our draft board. He is undersized, but he should fit the 3-4 defense well enough. His combine was above the average and we think his bars will hold pretty true. We would have liked him to have a higher special teams bar if anything since that is how he will see the field to start out with. Predicted Pre Camp Rating: 18/65 Actual Pre Camp Rating: 16/59 End of Season Rating: 32/52 Season Recap: 4 sacks and 29 tackles with 5 starts Lawrence Jackson (RB) - 4.6 Seeing as he got some consideration at 2.6, getting him at 4.6 is a bonus, even if it was the result of him being left in the priority queue. He is a little more polished than Wombacher coming out of college. Getting two backs is a way to hedge your bets to fill a need. Last time the Stingers did this was when they drafted both Roy Jones Jr. and Harvey Dunlap in the same year. Both panned out to be top tier backs for many years. Here's hoping for a repeat of that draft class. Predicted Pre Camp Rating: 26/55 Actual Pre Camp Rating: 29/45 End of Season Rating: 32/42 Season Recap: With Wombacher winning the starting job, Jackson never saw the field beyond special teams. John Woodson (C) - 4.23 We were hoping to land Jason Sidharta in the 4th and when that didn't happen, we settled for Woodson. We need an immediate backup behind an aging veteran and Woody will do the trick. Predicted Pre Camp Rating: 18/52 Actual Pre Camp Rating: 23/49 End of Season Rating: 32/41 Season Recap: Backup center and special teamer. Very little production Juan Bugallo (SLB) - 5.7 The draft would not be complete without at least one no combine guy in hand. It makes TC that much more fun or disappointing. His bars look good, the combine rating is in the negative, but that is with limited info. Let the dice roll begin. Predicted Pre Camp Rating: 15/55 Actual Pre Camp Rating: 13/46 End of Season Rating: 19/40 Season Recap: 29 Tackles and 4 assists in limited playing time. Never truly got any serious game minutes. Bryan Passmore (LG) - 6.6 I really hope his name not an indication. If he comes out of TC in good shape, he may be nicknamed, Bryan "Never" Passmore. For a 6th round reserve LG, we weren't scared off by the endurance bar. If the run and pass blocking bars hold, we'll be very pleased. Predicted Pre Camp Rating: 14/61 Actual Pre Camp Rating: 13/53 End of Season Rating: 16/47 Season Recap: Team Bench Warmer Sugar Bear Strouse (TE) - 7.7 Sure he doesn't have elite talent. His combine was subpar. But everyone in the league needs a guy who has a name like this on his team. The name is golden. At this point, we were doing a little future planning. We needed a long snapper and a guys that could line up in goal lines and simply run and pass block. With the conversion to 7, he may just get converted to the long snapper assuming he is still on the team. Predicted Pre Camp Rating: 20/48 Actual Pre Camp Rating: 18/40 End of Season Rating: 22/37 Season Recap: 5 Catches and served as a 2nd / 3rd TE for blocking situations. Production was as expected. |
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| Author: | thater [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: San Antonio Draft Recap - A Look Back and Ahead |
Nice, where are you getting those ratings from? It was a very tough call for me at #2 between the DT I picked and that safety. I wasn't expecting to have to make the choice, but WR are very hard to find in this league. |
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| Author: | bighousebrock [ Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: San Antonio Draft Recap - A Look Back and Ahead |
nice draft shooter, you beat me to the punch on elliot and morrison. the sugar bear pick is too funny, i am crossing my fingers he is a major boomer, because a league with a player called sugar bear as a star just seams right! i like the pre/post camp rating, i'll be adding those later to mine. |
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| Author: | W23 [ Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: San Antonio Draft Recap - A Look Back and Ahead |
Thanks for a good read... and it sounds like a real good draft. Like thater, I am wondering how you got those ratings - I've been awaiting the end of FA since the draft to find out the numbers on everyone I selected, but apparently there's some other way to find out earlier? |
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| Author: | Shooter [ Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: San Antonio Draft Recap - A Look Back and Ahead |
I used a simple formula on the ratings. I took the draft analyzer bars as the future and multiplied it by percent developed for the current. |
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| Author: | Shooter [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: San Antonio Draft Recap - A Look Back and Ahead |
Well in concept, my % developed theory seemed like a good idea. While it gave a decent indication, the wild card really comes down to how the scout sees the players. At least it gives a ballpark of what you are looking at pre camp. |
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| Author: | TurfToe [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: San Antonio Draft Recap - A Look Back and Ahead |
...and the pre-camp numbers still mean dick. The only value they have is to give relative value to the post-camp numbers, which do mean dick. Somewhat. Ultimately, the true numbers are the stats generated by the player until he is fully un-masked and developed. |
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| Author: | bighousebrock [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: San Antonio Draft Recap - A Look Back and Ahead |
Quote: ...and the pre-camp numbers still mean dick. The only value they have is to give relative value to the post-camp numbers, which do mean dick.
agreed. dick! Somewhat. Ultimately, the true numbers are the stats generated by the player until he is fully un-masked and developed. 
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| Author: | Shooter [ Thu May 01, 2014 6:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: San Antonio Draft Recap - A Look Back |
Bump....Added end of year update. |
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| Author: | bighousebrock [ Thu May 01, 2014 8:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: San Antonio Draft Recap - A Look Back |
i like it! i'll have to do mine later. |
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| Author: | TurfToe [ Thu May 01, 2014 6:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: San Antonio Draft Recap - A Look Back |
Prompted me to run Extender. I'll preview season awards later... |
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| Author: | TurfToe [ Thu May 01, 2014 7:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: San Antonio Draft Recap - A Look Back |
Agreed on both of your ROY projections. See the full rundown here. |
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