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 Post subject: Training camp done
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:54 am 
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Download the new file here: http://www.thecfl.net/cfl.zip

Can someone please try this and double check that everything works correctly for you? Thanks!

EDIT: THIS STAGE WILL BE RE-SIMMED. SEE DETAILS BELOW. I WILL LEAVE THIS FILE UP IN CASE YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT, BUT THE STAGE WILL BE RE-SIMMED, HOPEFULLY TODAY.

EDIT #2: AFTER FURTHER RESEARCH AND TESTING NO RE-SIM IS NECESSARY. WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THIS FILE. SORRY FOR THE DELAY.


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I have noticed two weird things so far:

1. In the transaction log there are a couple of mentions of a team from Akron. I'm not sure where this came from?

2. Every team currently has a power rating of 1.

Has anyone noticed this before in other leagues? Is this a bug or did I do something wrong?


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We've seen this Akron thing in the IHOF as well. It came up when an owner signed more than 150 players going into training camp. There's a rule now saying you can't sign more than 70, also known as the "Akron rule".


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[quotec92930e="3ric"]We've seen this Akron thing in the IHOF as well. It came up when an owner signed more than 150 players going into training camp. There's a rule now saying you can't sign more than 70, also known as the "Akron rule".[/quotec92930e]

Ah, good to know. We'll set up a rule for this next year. Currently the teams with more than 70 players are Denver (73) and Long Beach (75).


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Found a thread where Jim said it probably isn't anything to worry about
http://www.fof-ihof.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1440


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If I recall correctly, the whole gamefile was corrupted after that incident. Is that correct 3ric?

EDIT : must type f a s t e r... :)

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We did a re-sim I think, with a new export from that owner.


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[quote7bffd91="Taco"]2. Every team currently has a power rating of 1.[/quote7bffd91]

That's probably just because no-one has a starting lineup set yet...it should change with the next export I think...

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[quote15aaba7="3ric"]We did a re-sim I think, with a new export from that owner.[/quote15aaba7]

Ok, after researching the issue on the IHOF board you are correct. A re-sim was necessary because the game file was corrupt.

Therefore we will have to re-sim this stage.


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[quote57397ae="Taco"][quote57397ae="3ric"]We did a re-sim I think, with a new export from that owner.[/quote57397ae]

Ok, after researching the issue on the IHOF board you are correct. A re-sim was necessary because the game file was corrupt.

Therefore we will have to re-sim this stage.[/quote57397ae]

So you know for sure that the file is corrupt?

DukeRulesMAB of the FOFL wrote that
[quote57397ae]All 4 FOFL players who got the "AKR" designation were released earlier in the offseason. I think the game thinks they aren't "teamless" free agents, but also aren't "from" their old team, so it's taking the first team from the city list. Doesn't seem like a gamebreaking bug to me, but I don't know if it would cause any problems down the line. [/quote57397ae]

But is there other indicators that something's wrong with the file?

70 players isn't a hard line between a successful training camp run and a corrupt file. It's just the limit the IHOF has chosen. Given the evidence, I'd say that the game would run OK with 75 players in camp, but maybe you've simmed ahead as a trial run and seen some problems?


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In this thread:
http://www.fof-ihof.com/phpBB2/viewtopi ... c&start=80

Jim suggested re-simming. VPI97 did some tests trying to quick-sim ahead and the game blew up in pre-season week 2. I'd rather be safe and just re-sim until those references to Akron are gone.


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[quote1759e4a="3ric"]Given the evidence, I'd say that the game would run OK with 75 players in camp, but maybe you've simmed ahead as a trial run and seen some problems?[/quote1759e4a]

I haven't done that. I'll do a quick test now and let you know the results...


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I simmed through the entire season and nothing blew up. The players listed as coming from Akron are now listed as coming from Albany, which is still incorrect. Perhaps it is a harmless glitch.

I'd like to do more research before I continue though. I don't want to get halfway through the season and then have the file be truly corrupted and we have to revert all the way back here. Unlikely given my quick test, but I'm not convinced yet.

For now, let's go with the plan of a re-sim using everyone's exports that they already sent in, with the exception of Denver and Long Beach. I'll try their new exports and see if that gets rid of the Akron references.

If anyone else has time today to look into this I'd appreciate it! Please let me know anything that you find out.


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 Post subject: Re: Training camp do
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[quote7a6f3cf="Taco"]Download the new file here: http://www.thecfl.net/cfl.zip

Can someone please try this and double check that everything works correctly for you? Thanks!

EDIT: THIS STAGE WILL BE RE-SIMMED. SEE DETAILS BELOW. I WILL LEAVE THIS FILE UP IN CASE YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT, BUT THE STAGE WILL BE RE-SIMMED, HOPEFULLY TODAY.[/quote7a6f3cf]

I would've recommended that you not make the new file available if you are going to accept new exports from two owners.


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 Post subject: Re: Training camp do
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:50 am 
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[quoteedb2c8f="sovereignstar"]I would've recommended that you not make the new file available if you are going to accept new exports from two owners.[/quoteedb2c8f]

True. On the other hand, it allows other owners to do some testing by looking for other errors/clues of the corruption in the file.


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I've checked the file & results and things don't look outrageously weird to me, so I'm not going to make changes and send a new stage file. I know Taco has my old Pre-TC stage file and can run the stage on Thursday night with it.

Of course, it's very tempting to try and offer more money to FAs who rebuffed me... but I won't do that.... :D


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[quote2f581fd="Taco"]I simmed through the entire season and nothing blew up.[/quote2f581fd]

Okay, you've gotta tell us - how did our teams do? Did Tucson stake its claim as the greatest team in the history of the universe, as we're all expecting? ;)


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I don't want to know. I expect it'll be something like "Boston went 0-17 and ended up with 25 players on IR". :P


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To clarify, no one is allowed to submit a new export except for varacel and daed. Also, I will check the results to make sure they don't cheat and don't sign anyone who they didn't sign in the original stage. All they should be modifying is cutting a few players to get under the limit.


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[quotecccc753="Fonzie"]Okay, you've gotta tell us - how did our teams do? Did Tucson stake its claim as the greatest team in the history of the universe, as we're all expecting? ;)[/quotecccc753]

Ha! I figured someone would ask that! :) I'm not gonna tell.... ha ha hahaha :P


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[quote6b1c068="flere-imsaho"]Of course, it's very tempting to try and offer more money to FAs who rebuffed me... but I won't do that.... :D[/quote6b1c068]

Of course, I assume that Taco will only accept exports from the 2 'guyilty' owners. And that Varacel and Daed will be honest enough to only cut players to go down to 70 without modifying anything else in their export...

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[quoteb428f75="Taco"]Ha! I figured someone would ask that! :) I'm not gonna tell.... ha ha hahaha :P[/quoteb428f75]

Bastard! ;)

You know, just for kicks it might be interesting to let that parallel universe live on - a "Through the Looking Glass" episode of the CFL, as it were. That way we can compare our "active" management to that of the AI. Doing so would at least allow me to confirm the suspicion that my management of the team is probably less helpful to the team than no human management at all. :P


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[quote7b3a597="Taco"][quote7b3a597="Fonzie"]Okay, you've gotta tell us - how did our teams do? Did Tucson stake its claim as the greatest team in the history of the universe, as we're all expecting? ;)[/quote7b3a597]

Ha! I figured someone would ask that! :) I'm not gonna tell.... ha ha hahaha :P[/quote7b3a597]

You can tell us after the season has finised. We wouldn't want anybody specifically shooting for the team that has been dubbed "the best team" by the pre-season sim.

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[quote89ae075="Raven Hawk"]You can tell us after the season has finised. We wouldn't want anybody specifically shooting for the team that has been dubbed "the best team" by the pre-season sim.[/quote89ae075]

Ok, I'll do that. I'll make a note of it so I don't forget. I didn't save the game and all I looked at was the teams that made it to the CFL Bowl. I'll just say it wasn't Durham... :(


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